And Peter would say to me, “Oh man, it’s gonna be a big one.” I started to get nervous. He said, “Oh man, we’re going to give you a good one!” And I would check in with him every now and again, as the months went by and they were working away in the writers’ room. 8.” And Peter started rubbing his hands together. There was a slot I could fit into once I finished up the post production for “El Camino.” And so I said to Melissa Bernstein and Peter Gould, “If you guys want me, it would turn out to be Episode No. I think we wound up going somewhere around 17 or 18 days.
Ultimately it was one episode for the price of two. I think our original thought was maybe it would be 11 days. That would have been good vibes, but I was I was too afraid we’d break it! What were some of the challenges in shooting this episode?Ī typical schedule is a nine-day schedule, but we knew right from the get-go that this would be more than nine days. To the point where Peter Gould wanted to look into renting the actual “Lawrence” lens, which is apparently still out there, and maybe even still available for rent.
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We were trying to figure out how to make it as “Lawrence”-like as possible. This is sort of your “Lawrence of Arabia” moment.
Here, Variety catches up with Gilligan to discuss “Bagman,” and what’s coming next. With Jimmy/Saul now all in - and indebted to Mike for saving his life - “Better Call Saul” is now heading fast toward the events of “Breaking Bad.” Gilligan is back in the writers’ room (having previously stepped away from the show), which is currently breaking the show’s sixth and final season. Going back to the ‘X-Files.’ It’s enormous.”
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I think it was probably the most complicated single scene I’ve ever directed, and that’s counting the movie and everything I’ve ever done.
“It was something I was very much looking forward to, although I was nervous about pulling it off,” Gilligan tells Variety. The shootout scene, alone, took multiple days to pull off. For “Breaking Bad” creator and “Better Call Saul” co-creator Vince Gilligan, who returned to direct the episode, “Bagman” was perhaps the most challenging episode to helm of his entire career.Īccording to Gilligan, it took 18 days to shoot “Bagman” (compared to the nine-day shoot of a typical episode), partly because so much of it had to be shot in the desert, two hours away from where “Saul” normally shoots in Albuquerque. With little water and the blazing New Mexico sun, both Mike and Jimmy/Saul are soon sunburnt and parched - and Jimmy/Saul must even drink his own urine to survive. “She knows, she’s in the game now,” he says. It’s the moment that brings Jimmy/Saul and Mike permanently together - an uneasy partnership later seen in “Breaking Bad.” It also provides more foreshadowing for what ultimately happens between Jimmy and Kim, as Mike is incredulous that Jimmy told his now-wife about the money exchange. One of the thieves gets away, however - and with their vehicles destroyed by the shootout, Jimmy/Saul and Mike are forced to stealthily march across the desert with the money in two large duffel bags. After grabbing the money from twins Leonel and Marco Salamanca (“the cousins,” played by Daniel and Luis Moncada), Jimmy/Saul is ambushed and nearly killed - until Mike (Jonathan Banks), who had been tracking Jimmy/Saul from a distance, appears and assassinates most of the would-be thieves. In the worlds of “Better Call Saul” and “Breaking Bad,” there are always complications, of course.
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